<p>you can watch it on the parenthood website too -</p>
<p>I loved the scene where Adam goes off. I don’t think it was entirely inappropriate, though throwing the affair in his parents’ faces was a low blow. And yet, I see it as totally plausible – as in, you created the selfish Crosby and what a surprise that he’s emulating your poor behavior. Really, Adam – ok, Peter Krause – was so spot on last night. Great acting. Adam is tired, SICK and TIRED, of being the responsible, mature one and, therefore, the one everyone else expects to be the bigger person. Sometimes, you don’t feel like being the bigger person.</p>
<p>Can you tell this one hit a nerve with me??? :D</p>
<p>Yes, I find a little Lauren Graham goes a long way.</p>
<p>YouDon’tSay: I agree with you. Adam is the “good” son/father. His payment is…nothing. When he yells at his parents how they always rescue Crosby…and then you see the parents hugging Crosby after paying his bail…yeah, you really get it.</p>
<p>And I loved Christina’s character last night. Her character was in such turmoil.</p>
<p>Oh, and where is Haddie?</p>
<p>Yes, I feel for Christina. She soooo wants to do the right thing by her kids. Of anyone on the show, she’s the one with whom I most identify, though I don’t think I’m as tightly wound. I guess that’s why I started this thread – the situation with Haddie and Alex made me wonder what dh and I would do.</p>
<p>Yes, this was really Adam’s episode last night, and he was great. It was surprising to see him lose it, and yet the way he lost it was perfectly in character. Great job by both the writers and Krause. </p>
<p>Monica Potter continues to amaze me. She is completely inhabiting that character. Ditto Max Burkholder. </p>
<p>I liked Erika Christensen in last night’s episode, too. She kind of gets the table scraps from the writers, but she does good work with them.</p>
<p>JHS–I wouldn’t necessarily assume that Sarah really wrote “brilliantly and flawlessly” on her first try in 15 years. I think it’s more likely that the teacher saw some things he liked, and wanted to encourage her by focusing on the good stuff and giving her suggestions to develop it further (which, after all, is what good teachers do). It’s certainly not implausible that she has some real talent.</p>
<p>Agree with JHS. Except for a couple of scenes, I thought this week’s episode was pretty blah.</p>
<p>I thought that this week was really good in part because it was about “fallout”. Because of Crosby’s actions which (in addition to totally messing up his nuclear family) also totally devast Adam’s nuclear family. I thought it was interesting to see how how Adam started by going back to the pre Gaby days of denial about Max’s condition, but was able to bounce back and work the script the therapist had given them. I also thought that Christina was a rock star. The scene were she keeps reading to Max even though he has fallen asleep was beautifully executed. </p>
<p>It kind of reminded me of times in my life, or my son’s life where it looks like we are doomed to repeat old behaviors when faced with old challenges, but manage to take some of what we have learned and grow. The instance I am thinking of for S was a really terrible breakup, that rocked his world for a while. The second time he had a terrible breakup, I was all set to see the old him, and braced myself for the devastation, but then he picked himself up in a much better way. Im not explaining it well, but this show continues to wow me.</p>
<p>I have seen every episode except for the most recent one. I have never talked about this show with anyone else, but I do have some rants and raves about it:</p>
<p>How could Jasmine ever be forgiven for stealing five years of parenting from Crosby? She had no right to make that decision (to not inform him that he was a father). How selfish. If I were Crosby, I would be unable to forgive her for that alone. She then went on to trample on his parenting rights and the quality of his experience even further in their relationship. I don’t think he should have confessed his indiscretion with Minka Kelly, but I do think he should drop Jasmine and proceed with Minka. She is more low key like him.</p>
<p>When Camille and Zeke started having a love scene, it was way too yucky to watch. Old people sex…too gross to think about. This is terrible of me, but it is what it is. Good for them, of course, but next time I will close my eyes.</p>
<p>Haddie and Alex…You have to have a child like Haddie to understand how completely impossible it can be to control certain children (especially the really smart ones). I also have one who would not want to date someone who was inappropriate in my eyes. You have to take every child as an individual and do your best with each. Letting this kid stay at the grandparents house was a good thing, as was easing up on the Alex restriction. Haddie was not going to budge, and life does need to go on. What I would require is that she attend Al-Anon meetings if Alex is to be in her life at all. The heart wants what it wants, but that does not mean that a person should be unprepared and uneducated. Alex is very into AA and would want her to go. If she wants to be in a relationship with someone who has his disease, it is better for them both that she be fully prepared to take care of herself and be a good partner for him. Rather than protect our children from real life, we should prepare them for it.</p>
<p>Watched the episode finally. Loved Adam’s rant - he has always been the responsible one and is so tired. Loved the scenes with Adam/Christina and Max - was so hard to hear Max ask “Will I always have it?”. Adam was wonderful in the scene where he says he just wanted Max to have a fun day, a memory!</p>
<p>Give me less of Crosby/Jasmine please…</p>
<p>I guess I like Crosby because I identify with him to some degree; he’s got all kinds of flaws and issues, but he’s trying really hard to be a good, responsible person, and succeeding better on some days than others. I find people like that much more interesting (and appealing) than people who have it all figured out and do everything right all the time (I completely relate to Crosby’s combined resentment of, and need for approval from, Adam).</p>
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<p>I’m not sure why it’s gross. I thought their decades together gave it a richness that the “We met five minutes ago, now we’re having sex” scenes that often appear in movies/television lack. And it was certainly nicer than the real-life making out one sometimes see in public. At least they were doing it in the privacy of their own home!</p>
<p>I totally agree mimk6.</p>
<p>I thought them smooching was incredibly sweet and very real, they must be experiencing some frustration with the recent transition from empty nest to house full of teens and returning DD!</p>
<p>Stupid basketball! Bring back Parenthood (and Big Bang)!!!</p>
<p>I’m missing it too!</p>
<p>Bumping. Did we hear what the safety school was???</p>
<p>I am surprised that Amber applied to only 2 colleges!</p>
<p>they didn’t tell us what other school she applied to and to apply to two schools and be so clueless about the process - it’s ridiculous in this day and age – particularly with a young hip mom.</p>
<p>I think the young, hip mom is what got her in trouble. Sara isn’t particularly grounded in reality. She’s been pushing Berkeley from the beginning and chose to ignore the odds.</p>
<p>I agree about the young hip mom being part of the problem. Sarah doesn’t have her ear to the ground about these things. She’s not on CC. She probably never read a book on the subject. But it’s also possible that cost was a factor. She probably figured she’d get into the safety and paying for a lot of safety applications would be costly.</p>