Transparent, yes, but far from perfect: an applicant who’s school publishes a 3.8 W GPA over a kid with 4.5 W GPA who’s school doesn’t do the same. And then of course cases where kids transfer schools, don’t have GPA on 4.0 scale. Doesn’t look anywhere near perfect to me, in fact it’s pretty ridiculous.
Curious - why is it that some high schools don’t print a GPA?
Don’t know, our prints UW GPA and stopped printing W GPAs few years ago. I don’t remember their stated rationale exactly, but it was done at a district level to not penalize kids who’s school don’t offer much rigor.
Our son’s school does not print GPA…it’s a private independent school and this seems to be a common thing with them. Probably related to the high-achieving nature of most kids. There’s no honor roll and very few honors or awards given until graduation.
Just seems so incongruous with college application process
My daughter’s school is public but very academically rigorous (students must apply). It doesn’t report, and we don’t really know why. They don’t do valedictorian or rank because of the inherent competitive nature of the school, and it is only junior and senior, so it is unfair to rank since everyone came from different high schools. Still, why they don’t print the GPA does not make sense to me.
Yes, for Big 10 / SEC and other schools that use GPA for merit it stinks. The high school places most kids in T20 and SLACs though. I think that’s why they don’t calculate, since those schools all recalculate anyway.
In Ontario, students graduate with percentages on their transcript - I’m guessing because it’s more specific than a range.
Wow, you guys need to take some deep breaths and wait or pick a different school. They are transparent in what they are looking for as DA and giving the review request as an option. They are flooded with growing numbers of qualified applications. Definitely a higher number of male students hence looking to add females to the student body
The closing arguments like, “pick a different school if you don’t like their process,” is indeed my favorite.
As much as schools have rights to define their criteria, parents have every right to criticize them. But no one has the right to tell anyone to look at other schools if you don’t like something about it, and openly state that. Nothing is absolute.
One may like a school’s admission process, but not the school itself, and vice versa.
This forum is for parents to discuss their experiences and concerns, not be schooled.
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I believe the state of Washington does not use a weighted GPA, we are in the same boat. Unless a school recalculates the gpa… I also wonder how much IB is appreciated. It isn’t as common as I thought, it the skills you learn should count.
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Some US and UK schools will give students a first year university credit if he/she achieved an IB score of 6 or more in Year 12 HL classes. Those universities clearly understand the rigour of IB Year 12 classes!
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Most schools (all of the ones my kids applied to) recalculate the gpa. Not sure about IB but Indiana gives credit for AP scores of 3,4,&5’s. After first semester kids register for classes earliest depending on how many credits they have, so coming in with AP credits from highschool and the Kelley summer class is very helpful
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It wasn’t a closing argument. This is a petition tracker not a Rant page. It’s to be used for information. Hence I spent time this afternoon writing about the current Kelley environment and encouraging everyone to listen to the webinar for a clear ‘message’ from Kelley.
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Most reputable universities (including our in-state UW Seattle) recognize IBDP as a highly rigorous program and give due consideration.
In fact there’s a running joke among parents of our high school that if you’re an IBDP then regardless of your GPA, UW Seattle is in your bag.
Several colleges offer a generous merit scholarship to IB Diploma holders.
Almost every college, including Ivies give full credit for HL courses, while many others for both HL and SL courses depending on your scores.
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Another data point, in off petition, female, TO 3.9 UW / 4.5 W, but direct leadership experience in a non-finance business major. So tipping the scale in our favor: female, non-finance, leadership in major, geographic diversity.
We are happy for this outcome, but overall the college app experience is somewhat demoralizing. There’s an algorithm at play and you are only privy to part of it. So to think it’s entirely within your control is folly. We are still unpacking at least one negative decision that completely shocked us.
This is my second kid going through the process and my biggest concern with both has been that the experience flies in the face of the “set your sights on a goal, work hard, and you’ll get there” lesson that we tend to teach. That works for a lot of life, but there’s too much going on behind the scenes to know this to be true with college apps.
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In the broader scheme of things, I’m personally not very disappointed.
Things have worked out pretty much as expected for us (that too where we weren’t much aware of the admissions game until after applying.)
DD so far got accepted into every school where her GPA and test scores were closer/over their published 75 percentile.
Got rejected by NYU Stern (as expected). Deferred by Michigan Ross (as expected).
Deferred by UW Madison (this wasn’t expected, but pretty positive will come through in RD).
Our only disappointment has been Kelley, where I personally felt DD has stats better than most that they enroll, and now pretty certain she won’t get a direct admit, even with this so called “female” hook, that she doesn’t even need.
One can always argue why only expect admit where your stats are closer to the 75 percentile—it’s frustrating, but that’s what DD’s HS counselor offered as a general advise to her.
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In case some of you missed the email, here is the information on the pre-business webinar was was sent by bschool@iu.edu. You need to click on the link to register. I know everyone on this page is hoping not to need standard admit, but sharing for those who are interested.
To support you as you prepare for this new chapter, we’re inviting you to an exclusive webinar only for admitted pre-business students. This is your opportunity to hear directly from Kelley staff about:
The standard admission criteria and timeline
Important updates on review requests
Introduction to Business Pathways available at IULet us know which webinar you will attend:
Monday, February 24, 7 to 8 p.m. ET
Wednesday, March 26, 7 to 8 p.m. ET
Thursday, April 17, 8 to 9 p.m. ET
This is a great opportunity to ask questions and gain the clarity you need to start your first year with confidence. We can’t wait to see you on campus this fall!
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If she gets into all of these which one is she leaning towards?
Are you assuming that the email/webinar invite really was a “soft rejection?” Or was it simply a mass email sent to all who were admitted to PreBusiness?
Just curious!