<p>Our street is quite funky. We are at the top of the hill and there is next to no parking anyway. I just want access to our driveway for the few guests that this might be an issue for.</p>
<p>Maidenmom, when you click on an item on Amazon, look for the “Prime” logo next to it. If it’s not there, then there will be a shipping charge. If it is there, there should not be one.</p>
<p>We have Prime and they let you add some people. Our adult kids have it at no cost because of us but they use their own accounts with their own credit cards. So I see no real reason a college kid needs the college Prime account if they already have a parent using it. I think it’s to lure college kids into being Prime account holders for life.</p>
<p>That would be annoying about the parking. I think I’d be concerned your guests would think the party was the one out on the street. You may want to put up balloons on your mailbox or a sign or something pointing the graduation guests to the right place.</p>
<p>As for the shots - I suppose I’m the rebel here. I vaccinate my kids but don’t do any optional ones. And after last nights news report about 75% of them being stored improperly and perhaps ineffective I don’t think I’m all that wrong. I wonder about the whooping cough in the pnw and if it is making a comeback because of ineffective vaccines.</p>
<p>We’re not doing the hpv - too many deaths, too new, and it only protects against certain particular forms of cervical cancer, which can be caught with yearly paps. I didn’t do the chicken pox vaccine either until ds was 12 when it was obvious he wasn’t going to get them. His sister got “the pox” and he didn’t catch it from her. </p>
<p>I don’t think they’re evil, but I do think too many at such a young age may not be such a great thing after all. If I were to do it again I’d space them out more. </p>
<p>Anyone else remember lining up at school and getting what I think was the small pox vaccine? I still have the mark on my arm.</p>
<p>From my old country, we all got our vaccines in school because it was the best way for government to control it. I didn’t mind getting shots on my arm, but there were few we had to get on our rear. Boys used to try to peak when we were getting shots, and we used to have to get our girlfriends to stand guard outside to block any possible peeping holes.</p>
<p>There was news yesterday about some of those vaccines may not be effective due to improper storage by pediatricians. I am wondering if we would be better off to have kids be vaccined in school, and have better control of the agency on how to administer it.</p>
<p>The whooping cough in the PNW has a couple source points. We have many many imigrants from China, India and other SE asian countries as well as many Mexian and Central American immigrants. There are just a A LOT of people coming in who may not be vaccinated. We also have many philosophical non-vaccinators because there is a certain “earthy-crunchy” Waldorf School element that is larger than in some other places. I say this semi-in jest as a description not a judgement. However, herd immunity is lower than in some other places. It has also been said that with less than ideal weather people are more likely to be in close quarters indoors than warmer places.</p>
<p>Ha-- schools storing and administering vaccines would be a nightmare! Scientifically speaking, many vaccine storage “problems” are overcalls and the vaccines were probably still fine. Many were boosters, which of course are different than the initial series. </p>
<p>I’m not getting into a vaccine debate here; everyone is entitled to their own opinions. But a dtap booster in a teen or adult is light years away from being worried about your baby getting too many shots. Please consider it!! For babies’ sake!</p>
<p>Herd immunity - yes, that’s what I was after!</p>
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<p>What is going on with the nerdy end of new york city?</p>
<p>[Stuyvesant</a> HS students hold “Slutty Wednesday” to protest school’s strict dress code policy - NYPOST.com](<a href=“http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manhattan/tramping_out_oNxP1rfXokh3litpAagn1K]Stuyvesant”>Stuyvesant HS students hold ‘Slutty Wednesday’ to protest school’s strict dress code policy)</p>
<p>saintfan - I have friends who homeschool kids and are against shots, pasteurization etc.</p>
<p>Here it really loops around from very “liberal” to “liberatarianish” to very “conservative” If you made a ven diagram with all groups they would overlap at non-vaccinating and urban goat and chicken raising 
We are a diverse place and I think we may have more people who approach that center place from all points on the circumference.</p>
<p>I saw a political diagram two days ago where a professor told the students how the extreme libs and extreme cons are not that far apart. He drew a circle with a small slice taken out to show that, i.e., they come around to some similar view points like some president is not cons enough for them or lib enough for them.</p>
<p>I want to add the explanation that my sister, cousin and many friends are urban chicken people too so that description wasn’t meant to be mocking or derisive in any way. DS eats fresh eggs daily from sister’s chickens!</p>
<p>saintfan–I loved your description of our beloved city. It is true, and it is what I love about living here. I have a friend who essentially “fought” the city of Lynnwood to change the law so she could have her chickens!</p>
<p>. . . and when I read that, momsings, I still have no idea what her politics, religion or philosophy are 
I also love that the prototypical grouchy “get off my lawn” guys still sort out their recycling and put their lawn clippings in the yard waste toter.</p>
<p>So, texaspg and momsings - if we were to add a 3rd dimention to the ven diagram for the greater Seattle area urban chickens would be on the bottom, non-vaccination in the middle someplace and raw milk towards the apex of that overlapping center - urban chickens being a quite common overlap amongst the groups and raw foods as being a bit fringy in all groups but still in that range where one couldn’t discern religion, politics or philosophy from that one choice.</p>
<p>My sis and I share a friend who, along with her family, looks like the image of suburban conventionality. Her daughters have some kind of dwarf chickens that they keep in their rooms as housepets like one would keep a guinee pig!</p>
<p>ok . . . back to college talk</p>
<p>There needs to be something about composting in there but otherwise, the venn diagram sounds complete! :)</p>
<p>Stopping in to say “Hi!” We went to the theater banquet last night, and it was wonderful and heartbreaking at the same time. We graduated 20 seniors, 10 of which had been with the program all 4 years. They are called the Dream Team, and DS is one of 2 that has been cast in all 17 productions in 4 years.</p>
<p>I had the mom who composted and worm binned before it was cool. She also made home-made granola bars which were rock hard and went through a Sultan yogurt maker phase. The resulting yogurt would have needed to be drunk rather than spooned! She sewed clothes (think smocking and rick-rack), canned and sailed her own boat. She was a “League Lady” AND, as she called it, a Dan Evans Republican. She no longer makes her own yogurt and politically the ground has moved under her feet, but the stinky tub of vegetable ends, coffee grounds and egg shells by the kitchen sink remains!</p>
<p>OK momsings - I posted a photo for you that has absolutely nothing to do with chickens ;)</p>
<p>I always laugh about the fact that the conservative, militia-organizing, John Birch types from my hometown also made their own granola, composted and grew their own vegetables, etc. It was a bit of a culture shock to me to meet all my Berkeley Communists that had so much in common with them. </p>
<p>We always composted in my household as well, but I think it was because both parents were depression kids. We were raised to never throw anything useful away. The lesson didn’t stick, but I do have a milk container under my sink with egg shells and a cup in the fridge with bacon fat.</p>