(checked in again after a long time - can’t keep away from this thread despite of the new fonts/style)
DS20 got his AP scores - got 5’s in all 6 tests he took. It made him feel a bit better from the bad time he is having. He was down for last three weeks - since he got his school grades: he did bad in Chem. His teacher made it a point to tell him that he is being punished for late submission of a project and for not cleaning his lab table well - he swears that he submitted the project on time and cleaned the ‘shared’ lab table all by himself. Lesson learned. I too thought teacher was too harsh and punished him excessively in a subject that he really did well both in AP and SAT subject test (max scores) - but since GPA is more important it may sting him hard - lets see how this plays out.
@mebmama@bigmacbeth There is a severe. Nursing shortage in the US right now, but colleges are not increasing slots to meet the demand. That is for two reasons: 1. Educating nurses is generally the most expensive (least profitable) in the college, so presidents are reticent to increase size and 2) clinical faculty are extremely difficult to find right now; the baby boomer nurses and faculty are retiring and nurses can generally make far more $ in a clinical setting. BSN’s see little reason to get an MSN, so few do. Generally an MSN is needed to teach.
An RN credential is the highest paying non-bachelor’s degree in the US right now. So, career-wise it is a great choice. BSN’s are eclipsing RNs now in most regions.
All states require nurses to renew their licenses every other year. Many state boards produce a detailed report on the nurse workforce in its state. Not every state does this, but I can tell you more if you PM me. Nursing is probably the most well-tracked occupation. It is seen as a critical occupation, so states keep a close watch on the size of the nurse workforce.
Congratulation to your son @ hs2020dad Those are great scores. Will his teacher bump his grade for getting a 5 on the AP Test? If not, have you approached the teacher or the school about the grade and rationale given?
@hs2020dad wow great scores! That stinks about the grade. @cypresspat my s18 was interested in nursing but can’t get into the nursing programs around here since he’s a B+\A- student and you have to have A+ grades to get in.
@chb088 Most RN programs in the country right now have a two year waiting list. So many nurses are actually taking 4 years to get an RN because they spend 2 years taking prereqs waiting/hoping to get into the nursing program. And because most hospitals are what are called ‘magnet’ hospitals, they are aiming to hire mainly (80%) BSNs. So a ton of the educational resources for nurses have been going into RNs getting their BSNs. Too bad your son couldn’t find a place locally. Males most definitely have a huge advantage in admissions. I hope he was able to land someplace he is happy.
Hello all! I’ve lurked this thread for a bit and figured I’d participate. @soccamomma my son is waiting for the subject tests as well. We are hoping he wont need to retake them (he took math2 and bioE) since he may not have time. He is taking the Aug SAT for the first time and he might be applying for questbridge.
We havent had a chance to do much to enjoy the summer. S20 and his dad will be visiting Clemson in a few weeks and then NC State in Aug. @hs2020dad I hate that happened to your son, but congrats to him on wonderful AP scores.
No good news here on APs. 2’s all around for both D19 (Calc AB & Comp Sci A) & D20 (Calc BC & Physics 1).
H blames the school/teachers. After all, D20 got an A+ in her Physics 1 class and was at the top of the class.
We’re in MA, where scores release on Sunday, so we’re still holding out some tiny hope that the early scores process is flawed.
@cypresspat Yes! I have learned SO much about nursing over the last 18 months or so as we’ve started this journey. Limited nursing school spots due to limited clinical space seems to be the biggest issue everywhere. Some schools are getting creative to offer more spaces - Clemson now has a second cohort that starts in a summer term and is actually bussed to a new facility 20min away from campus (in Greenville) for their clinicals. We’ve heard other schools talk about other ways they are trying to increase clinical opportunities so they can offer more spots for their BSN programs. It seems a shame that there is a need for nurses ( and people who want to be nurses!) but that the current system is struggling to accommodate this!
On another note DD 20 also got her APs back but didn’t do nearly as well as some others posted! ( I wasn’t going to post them but am in the interest of keeping it real - ha!). 5,4,3,2,2. The 2’s were not unexpected though as both teachers are new(er) - one had extremely low pass rates last year and the other was teaching it for the first time. She’ll take 3 more next year and anticipate she’ll do well on all of them as all 3 have established teachers and play to her strengths.
We are in MA as well but accessed them through earlyscores from Maine. After S19 saying he thought he “passed” them, I was a little like oh well. We did have all around good scores in the end though with D20 with APUSH 5, Lit 4, and Bio 4. And I’m thinking that S19 will take the college credit with Calc AB 5, physics C 4, and Stats 4. Of course if in fact these are accurate.
I see no reason why early scores would produce inaccurate scores since it is only a means to trick the real college board website into thinking it is being accessed from a state from which scores are allowed to be accessed. Sorry to be a bearer of bad news to those hoping otherwise.
Howdy to @mebmama and @MamaBear2001! Nice to see so many happy AP results. And it sounds as if those of you whose kids have had disappointments are putting the scores in perspective. We’re holding out for our actual log-in tomorrow. No good reason except that we’ve really enjoyed this bubble (Schroedinger’s scores?) of not-knowing.
Congrats to good AP scores and potential to save a lot of tuitions down the road!!!
S20 is at BU now and seems enjoying the program. He is in the lab during the day and is either going to the gym or hanging out with newly formed friends afterwards. He is happy to get 5s for Bio ( he said low % for 5s) and Physics C M ( thought the test was a lot harder than the practices done in class). Now we are waiting for physics subject test score next week. When he comes back he will have a good amount of summer reading/homework to do before school starts. Also the monstrous tasks of writing college application essays start as well.
The white background and light fonts are tiring my eyes also. I haven’t been on often since the new design and probably will be less on going forward. I joined the FB group and will try to be more active over there!
I think there is definitely a correlation between student scores and how well a teacher prepares one for the test. In my S20’s calculus BC class for example, many get B’s for a grade but most get A’s on the test. We are still waiting on scores here - S20 doesn’t want to get scores early.
@momzilla2D sorry about the 2s My S20 also got a 2 on his AP Lang and it’s the only AP class he took junior year (not taking any senior year - just PreCalc Honors). He got a B in the class. He was a little disappointed but shrugged it off and I assured him it will be OK that he needs to take English 100 in college. He has done well enough on his California standardized testing and SAT that he won’t need remedial classes.
It’s not all bad to repeat things in college (even though I know it means less cost savings).
How many schools/teachers do this? If it is done, is it a school policy or a teacher policy? For us it is a teacher policy and there is some controversy if the two teachers in the same subject don’t offer the same APscore/grade bump policy.
DS’ school does not up the grade for good AP scores either, as the final grades were out a full month before AP scores come out. I wonder for schools/teachers to have such a police, more kids might be willing to take the exams?
@mebmama. You are smart to make sure the school is sourcing clinicals properly. One thing some schools are using (if their state board allows it) is simulation centers. Studies show that the students have the same outcomes and the sim centers are growing in popularity. You can find out if the state board allows sim center to count for the clinical hours or not. They are actually really cool places! And really good to supplement the tougher rotations to find, like OB and Peds.
At my son’s school, it’s up to the individual teacher whether to offer a grade bump for earning a 5 on the AP test. Most teachers offer a one semester grade bump for scoring a 5. So far my son hasn’t benefited from it, as he hasn’t earned any B grades; however, my friend’s daughter benefited from it in AP Lang. The AP Language class is notoriously difficult and only 1 or 2 students a year earn an A in the class. After earning a 5 on the AP test, her semester grade of B was bumped to an A.
I think in the case of hs2020dad’s son, a grade bump would have negated the grade deflation from the discrepancy in perspective of the teacher and the student.