Model -----> Chloie
Mall date ----> Alexe
Asthma helper -----> Natalie
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The Bachelorette will not be returning this year.
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Anyone know when Paradise starts??
Presumably summer, but no specific date released yet.
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I’m ok with that. I’m cool with having this current season, Paradise and then maybe a golden in the fall??
No thoughts after last night? Mine: This show has jumped the shark.
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I watched and finished up this morning while exercising.
I don’t know that I would say it jumped the shark but while not a watcher from the beginning I think it’s pretty typical that each season it starts and I say, “oh, this is going to be a “nice” season!” - and then it falls apart like always to a degree.
WHY would he keep Rose? The only thing I can think is that he really DID say something about “I was thinking of you when dancing with her” and so he felt bad for his mistake to boot her out? But also WHY would she tell Carolina that info?! DUMB.
I could lose both Carolina and Zoey. But instead dad MY favorite Chloi left! 
I would say that I hope Chloi will be the new lead for The Bachelorette, but they aren’t planning a season in 2025. I get that he wasn’t attracted to her - so why keep her around - but man, she was one of the most mature, pleasant, fun, supportive (from what we see) women there.
I’m wondering whether they aren’t having a new Bachelorette season because the crop from this season is all wrong.
They never explained why Beverly left (she went on a podcast and said that she had appendicitis and had surgery). So why not say that? I’ve never had that, but can’t she come back from that?
And then the Bravo tie-in. I may be in the minority here, but I don’t do any of the Bravo shows. Seemed desperate. I thought that 3-on-1 was dumb anyway. And how/when was it decided that Litia got the extra time?
I wasn’t paying super close attention, but the whole episode felt choppy and like it didn’t make sense.
And then we had to hear Grant sing again. 
All the girls crying that next day after the group date? It’s like something was in the water. Geez.
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All the crying and drama was annoying. Keeping Rose and Zoe seemed odd.
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Thanks for bringing up some stuff I forgot. I had no idea who those people from Bravo were.
I too felt like it was edited and forgot a part - yes, why did she get that time?!
I too heard Beverly had appendicitis - I mean, it can happen with varying degrees of complications/recovery.
I would think at this point none of these girls is going to be willing to put their dating life on hold for like a year to get the chance to be The Bachelorette.
I don’t watch Bravo except Watch What Happens Live, and even then only if the guests are non-Bravo celebs or celebs that follow Bravo, e.g. Chrissy Teigen. So that basically means one episode a week. 
But I do know who Lisa Vanderpump is.
The episode was a hot mess, likely as a result of Beverly’s departure. Clearly they threw that last half together at the last minute.
I’m ready for Zoe and Caroline to leave, although I’m sure most of the drama is contrived.
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Could “the break” have anything to do with Jenn’s season going so horribly bad?
I also watch when I exercise! Odd episode for sure. I was so thrown off by him keeping Rose - the cynic in me, assumed it was producer suggested to keep the drama going?
Grant spends a lot of time talking about his sensitivity, loyalty, etc. and keeping someone that chooses to say something clearly hurtful seems out of character. Who does that? Even if he had said it, or perhaps she really “thought” he said it, why tell Carolina? That alone would be a deal breaker for me!
OMG - the crying scene!! What was that? I totally thought they were fake crying at first - haha.
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Thank you - I thought I missed this information but was so bored I didn’t go back
This isn’t a spoiler but more of a 
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And I won’t identify anyone …
But I saw that one of the current contestants on Grants season was on vacation/partying with the winner of another Bachelor season (so a female) on instagram. Maybe they knew each other before all this and maybe the winner encouraged this seasons contestant to apply but I was surprised to see this surface while I was just watching stories!
There is always one drama girl!
Now it’s just a matter of when she leaves.
Why do these shows equate jumping off high things = falling in love??
To me the top runners are Liticia, Alex’s and Juliana. There is a chance I spelled all of those wrong.
Rose sure had a meltdown. I wonder if they said if you’re thinking of leaving we will assure you a spot on Paradise and that nailed her decision.
Litia
The most shocking self-elimination ever.
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And Alexe
I didn’t quite get what happened between Rose and Carolina. What did Rose say that wasn’t “he was thinking of me when he was with you.” Did she say, “I wish he was thinking of me” or something like that? When Rose accused Carolina of throwing her under the bus, Carolina didn’t deny it.
Actually I DID spell that one right but it autocorrected!! 