Same. But I’d bet she’d be one of those “surprise” shows up on the beach
They gave her too much attention. They didn’t need to show her jacket, show her walking in and out, have her in the hot seat. They liked her drama.
I think they must be talking to Rose about Bachelorette. She kept relatively quiet considering all that happened.
Will admit I also sat through the “women tell all” - although also worked on a puzzle at same time!
I got the feeling Saraphiena is being considered for the next bachelorette (if they bring it back). Her on-stage chat with Jesse seemed like an audition for the part!
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I think there is talk about her being on BIP.
Anyone surprised at the final 2???
No .
Not in the least.
Who do y’all think will get the final rose? No playing if you’ve looked at spoilers.
I’m going to stick with Juliana. I know in some ways Litia makes the most sense, but he has shown more emotion with Juliana. Also, I think Litia meeting with Kaity and Juliana meeting with the runner-up was a red herring.
ETA: Do you think that he slept with anyone?
Can’t play
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I think he slept with Juliana? Maybe?
Zoe looked kind of dejected at the rose ceremony BEFORE he gave his roses. I don’t think they ever were a match to be made.
I’m worried about Juliana if she doesn’t win - and is turned down by a man she was deep in with - again.
I do not know any spoilers - but “fake news” either Katy and Litia are good actors or they met and THEY fell in love on the show because Litia is on so much of Katy’s social media it’s clear they are friends. I think that could go either way for her winning or not.
It’s hard to think he would so naturally and often say “I love you” to Litia to NOT choose her. He’d have to be really spooked about the religion and lifestyle to not choose her.
Did they show Zoe in bed the following morning? I think maybe they went to the suite but she went back to her own room.
I think he is attached to Litia’s personality but her culture (as her father referred to it) and priorities don’t match. I also think Zoe’s plans for the future didn’t match when she said that she wanted to create an empire.
I thought he looked bored with both Litia and Zoe. He wasn’t looking at them, but was looking off to the side.
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I don’t think he and Zoe spent the night together. I’ve never seen the next-day talk happening on a picnic on the beach.
I think his head is saying Litia and his heart is saying Juliana. When Litia said she wanted kids in a year or two, that looked too soon for Grant. She is saying all the right things, but the way he is with Juliana is something I can’t shake. As she said, she’s a little broken, and I think Grant is a fixer – the way he wants to be near his father’s rehab, etc. Juliana has a big, happy family, too, and already lives on the East Coast.
ETA: Wasn’t there something with Juliana, too, about addiction? Some unnamed relative? Another thing that might create a bond.
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But Zoe did except the key to the suite, right? You’re right about the morning after on the beach.
Juliana seems so sweet. She is always making eye contact and comments with the other girls, congratulating them etc. I think she is very genuine.
Litia seems a little “air head” for lack of a better word. She DID NOT like that zip lining date! The yoga date, also, LAME.
The yoga date was lame. They give the girl who hasn’t had a one-on-one a date where they can’t talk.
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Absolutely not surprised by the final 2. I never saw the connection with Zoe and felt as if he only kept her because he felt bad about the lack of one-on-one date. I mean, even he admitted they were no where near marriage - duh.
As far as, Juliana and Letia, I agree with those thinking it is probably Juliana. I think he is way more attracted to Juliana and Letia’s baby timeline conflicts too much -especially with someone he basically just met!
Also, I wonder if the “I love you’s” to Letia are editing? Maybe he also says it to Juliana but those aren’t shown?
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In the Women Tell All they showed the rose ceremonies where Carolina & Dina (and I think one other person) were not given roses. The last person given a rose was Zoe. I know it is just editing, but it felt like she got the rose because he had to send someone else home.
Juliana has been my favorite from the beginning - she does seem genuine. I hope he chooses her, and that they are a success story.
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Reminder of the finale tonight. And I guess After The Rose? This is the only night of the season that I try and watch live. At least until he gives the rose.
I’ve seen no spoilers but after hearing/reading I’m curious what actually ends up happening. I have developed my own theory that I’ve created on my own. 
Grant, Grant, Grant.
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I just watched until the rise ceremony was done - I’ll watch the chit chat tomorrow.
I respect Litia for how she handled it. She truly was blindsided.
I think it came down to this. Grant is ready to be engaged, TO DATE and eventually marry. He’s young and wants to have fun. Julia a seems fun! He has a pep in his step with her!
Litia is ready to be engaged and to MARRY. The timeline killed the buzz of their relationship. She is five years ahead of where he is at this point. I also can’t describe her as fun. I believe he loved her - but that maybe on a day to day, the excitement wasn’t there.
Did Litia’s voice annoy anyone else? The way she often talked with him seemed kind how a preschool teacher would talk!
I’ll finish tomorrow
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Finished the show this morning while exercising…..2 additional comments:
- Maybe Litia was too “perfect” for Grant. Her family, her career, her looks. Maybe he was turned off by her constantly saying “you are enough”. With his tough upbringing and family dynamics maybe he felt he couldn’t measure up to her “perfect” family scenario??
- LOVE LOVE Zoe’s shorter hair!
Ok, one more comment. Golden and regular BIP on the beach? LOL, bring it on……