It’s also a tactic to secure wealthy full pay tuition students.
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Hi, just to clarify your son received the email 30 minutes ago for the Hammond scholarship? Would you share his stats?
Yes , he was nominated for Hammond. He has 4.0 UW gpa. 1570 SAT, NMSF, varsity swimmer, ton of community service.
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Not really. ED decisions are generally made before they would ever see FAFSA/CSS information so not sure how they would know if a kid were going to be full pay or not at the time of acceptance. Not being able to meet the financial obligation is the legitimate escape from the ED agreement so anyone should run the NPC for whatever schools they’re ED’ing to and make sure they’re comfortable with that number.
There isn’t much incentive for a school to hand out significant merit during ED rounds but there’s no certainty those kids are going to be full pay.
They probably don’t know if a kid is full pay, but the Admissions reps do know if an applicant has checked the box indicating that they’ll be applying for financial aid. Our representative told us this specifically.
Fair point. Not that the schools will ever release the information but I’m skeptical that field dramatically factors into who gets in or not. Certainly if a kid is borderline that might be the factor that gets the acceptance but they’re not admitting kids that fall well outside their median criteria just because there’s no intent to submit FA.
U of Miami is need aware and requires all applicants who check off that box that states they’ll be applying for FA to submit the CSS profile well before the ED and EA decisions come out. It 100 percent factors into their decision process.
Our daughter just received her email today for Premier application. Due Jan 1.
Hi! My son just received email that he is a finalist for these scholarships- do you know how many they give out per year?
Do you know how many of these scholarships they award each year?
Hey there, it was about antagonists in work of fiction being good leaders despite their flaws or something along those lines. My daughter applied as a nursing major so she wrote about Nurse Ratched in One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest. She didn’t get the Premiere scholarship, just the Presidential.
We did a deep dive last year trying to figure that out. The admissions rep on CC told me that less than 5% of all applications were nominated for the scholarship. I think I saw somewhere that maybe a quarter of those were given one of the Premiers. She didn’t end up going to Miami so we didn’t get to see how many kids got it.
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I agree that it factors into their decision process but how much? I suspect not substantially. They’re not accepting a C student because they’re full pay. If they have 1 slot left and equivalent students except one is full pay and the other checked they’ll be filing for FA, sure - the spot probably goes to the full pay kid.
And checking that box isn’t an indication that you’ll NEVER submit for FA - just that you won’t be filing for it freshman year.
Depends on the school. Wake Forest tells you if admitted under a non financial aid plan you can never apply for aid during your 4 years without documentation of a severe change of need. They send you a letter about this and make you confirm your choice before application review.
Interesting - I wasn’t aware of that dynamic at WF. And a “severe change” can’t be “I spend all my savings on Freshman year”?? 
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Semifinalist for Stamps Scholarship
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This is true about Wake Forest. I can verify having had this exact conversation with a financial aid officer there.
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My daughter attends UM (2022 Fall Freshman). When she applied, deferred EA applicants were allowed to switch to ED2. I don’t know if this option was extended to all EA deferrals or just some. Does anyone know if this is for all EA deferrals and if it happens every year? Based on the UM website, it seems to be - but, I don’t know for sure. Thanks!
You didn’t tell us whether or not your daughter changed from EA to ED2 to get in.
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She was ED2 from the start, no switching. She did EA to her first choice school knowing UMiami was a close second. She knew that the EA decision would come out before UM’s ED2 came out, so she could pull if she needed to…She’s incredibly happy at Miami, great fit for her. My son loves UM, but ED worries him for some reason.
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