This is my sentiment as well…I can remember sitting in my first pre-med meeting in the chem auditorium with over 600 students. As each semester passed that number was cut dramatically for all types of reasons. But UVA affords lots of opportunity across many departments/fields of great strength.
I never imagined when I started I would be a Biochem major and go on to dental school at UNC. I think the move to 3 years (and probably will be direct admit somewhere down the road) to McIntire doesn’t afford students an opportunity to explore other options. It seems the outside influence of earlier hiring timelines for some business fields (I.e. IB) was the impetus behind it.
did anyone notice any changes in portal or SIS?
Yep. We were faced with that decision several years ago and chose Georgia Tech with free tuition. There were several other reasons for that choice although he did love UVA, but the extra 90 K a year was a dealbreaker.
Hi there, portal changes are addressed in this blog post. It’s not tied to a student’s decision.
Thanks!
Yep, when I said other students in my subjective list, this falls into it: Some schools like NC and TX are so overwhelmingly in state, that could be a reason for both in state and OOS folks to go or not go depending on what suits the student.
Only replying to say I’m a big fan. Schools could learn so much about transparency and being able to kindly deliver news from your blog. - Parent of a current third-year and a current EA applicant.
I am having the same debate with my daughter on the other side. Admitted to UNC (in-state) but really wants to UVa if she gets in out of state. Grass is always greener.
Hi @UVADeanJ, just saw the blog post with initial EA stats- thanks for that!
Question: if UVA is required to have a predominantly in state class, why were so many more OOS offers made? Is it because the predicted yield in-state is that much higher?
Overall offers: 6,746
Total VA offers: 2,788 (25% offer rate)
Total OOS offers: 3,958 (13% offer rate)
Wow. Totally expecting a no tomorrow.
Yes, the VA group yields at a higher rate. The second tab here has yield data. You can see admit and yield rates by county for any school in Virginia here.
It’s going to be brutal.
Long gone are the days like I had 30 yrs ago, when I never considered I wouldn’t get into UVA so I just applied to a few schools - Va Tech, UVA and NC State.
Because more students apply from OOS than in-state. Even accepting OOS students at half the rate results in more OOS offers. I’m going to guess OOS yield is lower given the much higher cost (my OOS S24 is a first year at UVA— it’s not cheap).
$80k price tag. Much lower percentage will pay.
It’s easy to say - I’m going to UVA if you are a student.
Not so easy to pay that much for a flagship - stroking that check never easy.
We are prepared for the no also. We were surprised that we got deferred from Michigan so maybe we stand a chance for a deferral. My S25 is ok with a no we are OOS with no legacy or relation to UVA via any programs and not a 4.0. She has some other great offers and her focus is getting through undergrad and going to medical school so she will work hard to get there no matter what.
My daughter was a 2023 graduate so she applied in 2018 for a fall of 2019 start…no ED option that year. There were 25,000 applicants for EA with an IS acceptance of 43% and OOS of 19%.
This year is 42,000 EA alone (not including ED of 5,000 applicants) with 25% IS acceptance and 13% OOS. Wow!
Why were you surprised ?? It’s a top school - and they defer.
I believe they were pleasantly surprised with the deferral… had expected a rejection.
Thats’s the way it sounded to me too
I am prepping my daughter for a denial. We live in FL and she was accepted at UF but waitlisted at UNC.
Unweighted GPA: 4.27 (school gives for for A+)
Weighted GPA: 4.80
SAT: 1520
4 year varsity soccer, president of schools ambassadors, 4th in state in chemistry in the science fair.
We shall see, but not holding my breath.