Very very few kids get offered PACE. I don’t know whether any of them are OOS or not.
Thanks, I am intrigued given my son’s specific position, but we’ll just wait and see. Having both kids overlap at UT would be wonderful for us, but this son is totally happy with what he’s got so far. I’ll certainly post if he gets it for future reference. I searched the threads and I can’t see any message for OOS – definitely see it’s reserved for like ~200 kids. I felt like CAP is used for instate and maybe PACE is more liberal in terms of who it’s offered to.
Did everyone get the “Admission Update” email from UT?
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Agreed. Bait & switch with such a misleading email title, “Admissions Update-Decision Information!”
Both the Univ of FL and the Univ of Texas - Austin received 90,000+ applications this year. Both schools are listed as #30 in USNews National Ranking and #7 in the Public University Ranking. Univ of FL is listed first, which I was told means they are slightly higher in that 30th and 7th place. Somehow, UF was able to do their job and got through the early action applications on time even though it’s their first year doing EA. My son was accepted to UF. Even if he got into UT-Austin, I don’t think I would send him. UT seems to be a mess. We are OOS for both so no state allegiance. I just want a school where my son will have a good experience. This entire process has ruined my confidence in UT. For the exact same ranking and a way better admissions experience, UF seems to be the way to go.
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This is interesting. So UF’s EA process gave admit/deny decisions only to everyone? No deferrals? Actually I just did a search and the outcomes for UF were almost the same: accept/deny/defer (where UT’s was accept/defer) with the defers having to wait until mid-March RD decisions to end the limbo instead of UT’s defers waiting until mid-February.
As for the rankings, you notice that all the ties in US News and World Report (there are several ties in all their lists) are listed alphabetically.
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I agree! It was very poor form for UT Austin to not communicate the delay in advance and to then accept applicants in the RD pool while they “delay/defer” most EA applicants. Only applicant families that were accepted on 1/15 can whole-heartedly believe that all EA applications were reviewed and it was a true deferral for those who were delayed. How many strong applicants missed their opportunities to have an invitation to the 40 Acres Scholarship because their applications were never reviewed? University of Michigan, USC, UVA, Rutgers and IU all had increased applications but none of them dropped the ball! They all delivered!
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Are you saying schools like Michigan and USC didn’t defer/postpone any Early applicants?
Are you also saying that Texas didn’t notify Early applicants that it is possible they wouldn’t have a final decision until the regular decision date?
On the Michigan thread someone asked how many postponed students get a RD acceptance. This was the response:
“I have no info on this but since they postponed so many, I would think the % is very small?!”
So, it looks like Michigan, just like Texas, deferred/postponed a lot of Early applicants. I remember reading USC did the same.
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All schools defer/deny but they treat ALL EA applicants equally and give the admission decision at the SAME time and not change their admission narrative the next day from “we need more time to review” to adding the word “deferred” in an incomprehensible narrative. Hence, none of the schools that I mentioned generated the type of distrust in the admission process that UT Austin had. In addition, no other schools accepted applicants in their RD pool during the EA round. UT Austin should allow EA applicants who are still waiting to opt out and get back their application fee. How many delayed EA applicants had counted on a definitive decision by 1/15 so they can potentially opt out of ED2 if they were accepted to UT Austin? Many paid the opportunity cost because UT Austin changed the rules of the EA round and was not even transparent about it.
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OOS DS got accepted at UT (physics ranked 13th according to US news and ranking) and deferred by UF (ranked 47th). He only considered UF w/honor for low OOS fee compared to UT, but was surprised to be deferred. I cannot figure out how the decisions are made but happy to be accepted at few top universities and move on to next when deferral happens!
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It seems like a no brainer.
- You’re not happy about UT’s process
- Your son got into U Mich
Do you still care about UT’s decision? Just go to U Mich. It’s amazing and UT is probably not the school for your family.
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We have written off UT as this debacle is a poor preview of the UT administration. I am pointing out the injustice of this admission process & the negative impact to those EA applicants who are still waiting for a definitive decision.
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I said they got through their process, which did include some deferrals BUT they publicly said they would not issue many deferrals and they didn’t. UT accepted a very small percentage and then just changed the date for everyone else. They told my son’s guidance counselor that they couldn’t get through the applications and they admitted a very select few but had to move out the decision date for all others. Those were the words from UT to our school’s guidance counselor.
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Of course tie rankings are in alphabetical order. It’s obvious. 
That is rather a surprise.
UF has been advancing it is ranks in recent years. But from a STEM point of view, I thought UT has an edge and UT’s admittance should be more competitive.
I just saw a Caltech, MIT caliber CS kid with SAT 1600 got denied by UIUC. Besides candidacy, AO’s personal view matters quite a lot.
UT shot its own foot carrying out its traditional admission practice while introducing EA, we can all expect a change next year.
If people care about rankings, UT is ranked ahead of UF in multiple majors, not just a few.
Business
Engineering (probably almost all engineering)
Math
CS
Physics
Several Public Affairs majors
Im sure there are several others.
UF is a very good school but based on rankings, UT is far ahead in several different majors. Im sure UF is better in other categories.
UF is much less expensive for OOS, for those who are looking at cost.
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totally agree.
Location wise, I like both UT and UF, I just could not find a good ranking major in UF that my son wants to study, high school kids care about rankings and prestige.
UF CS kids are also doing leetcode, not much difference from what CS students do in CMU and UT, you literally pay to get a school sticker on your resume, the rest comes from your own effort.
For a CS or Computer engineering major, UT has always been at the top of my choice though, cost is a major factor, I shot Michigan off right from the beginning, UMich OOS cost is ridiculous high.
I was clarifying it in a direct response to the poster who wrote “ Both schools are listed as #30 in USNews National Ranking and #7 in the Public University Ranking. Univ of FL is listed first, which I was told means they are slightly higher in that 30th and 7th place.” So perhaps obvious to most but not obvious to all
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Michigan, USC, UF and UT all did the EXACT SAME THING, except UF also rejected tons of high stat kids to many people’s dismay! Give the admissions offices a break!!! My son is a current freshman at UT and is having the most incredible experience. We are HUGE HUGE fans of the school and the fact that they got 90,000 applications and reinstated mandatory test scores and then couldn’t handle the massive undertaking on their hands isn’t indicative AT ALL of the way the school is run. Defer was always listed on their website as one of the options for a decision on Feb 15. The fact that so many people missed that isn’t the school’s fault. Wouldn’t you rather them take extra time to review all the apps then use AI to score the essays like UNC does??
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