Agreed, Montegut. Not one likeable character; not one character who behaves in a remotely realistic way. Plus, no walkers in this episode, not counting the zombie-like acting of the woman who plays Madison.
Last night’s episode brought back memories of the writers’ strike of 1998, like they lost track of what makes these shows interesting for watchers. I guess episode six will be about them escaping the fence, but I don’t really care at this point. I will still watch, cheering whoever gets eaten.
I like Travis’s son(can’t remember his name). He seems to be ok and is worried about others outside of the fence.
Yes, it was a lackluster episode. But next week maybe the gruesome factor will pick up with a [color=crimson]bloodbath in the hospital/color.
I think Ofelia just wanted antibiotics for mom Griselda’s grisly foot and when those weren’t forthcoming she gave the soldier the brushoff.
Not a fan of this series at all. The only character I like is Daniel and he might not make it back from the hospital. I loathe Nick and I don’t like Madison.
You know, I don’t watch “The Walking Dead” for the zombies (I don’t need a gruesome factor) - I watch it for the survivors. (Okay, I watch it for Michonne and Daryl. And Carole, too.) And so far, for me, this “Fear the Walking Dead” has been a disappointment. It just makes me miss TWD more…
DonnaL : What do you see as unrealistic about their response? (Not leaving the glass door open. That I get)
I am still just loving it. A zombie show with all the zombies all off stage is my kind of zombie show. 
I prefer slow zombies to fast zombies, and potential zombies are easiest of all to watch. I never watched a horror show till I had sons and am still not able to deal with all the gore and scary music very easily. Nick’s heart was racing and my heart is still racing after just watching episode 4.
Michonne and Daryl and Carole become different people when they have to deal with the apocalypse. jmho. Isn’t that sort of the point of the flashbacks? Maybe I’m wrong, but it seems to me all the characters managing to survive, in Walking Dead, change dramatically. They have to react to the world in ways they never would have considered before. I am looking forward to seeing how FearTWD characters either do or don’t adapt in time to survive.
Good people are the first to die.
I think Nick will probably survive, because he is all about self-interest.
Did Daniel go to the hospital? I thought they prevented him. Please tell me, so I don’t have to watch again. 
Of course, it looks like I’m in the minority, here and off the board. I really hope there is a season 2.
^^ You’re right - Daniel was kept away from the hospital. I was mistaken! I’m still not optimistic about his survival (mainly because he’s my favorite character!)
You’re right - Daryl, Michonne, and Carole did change during the course of TWD. However, they were still interesting, arresting characters at the beginning of the series, before the evolved into the characters they are now. I do not see that depth of character (or even likability of character) in the cast of “Fear the Walking Dead.”
To each his own, of course. I don’t think I’ll watch a Season Two of this…
So what do we think? The soldiers are rogue? there is no government oversight any longer? They are executing and dumping the ill someplace out of sight and sound? Like in Daniel’s story from his childhood?
It looks like they killed people and zombies in an effort to create a secure barrier for themselves. They are hoarding supplies (like meds), if they have them at all.
How I Live Now
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^^^ The show so far reminds me a whole lot of this movie, but it took me weeks to recall the name.
I don’t think they are rogue yet. One of the soldiers said there were x number of safe zones. I think there is overreaction because people don’t know what is going on. Remember the beginning of AIDs? People talking about quarantine?
I do wish there were a sympathetic army character. He could be confused, conflicted, whatever.
If I found the military commander hitting golf balls and acting like that during a crisis, it would be immediately clear that he represented more of a problem than a solution and would eventually need to be dealt with.
That’s IF you didn’t know that the military always ends up portrayed like this, anyways.
I don’t think they are rogue yet. One of the soldiers said there were x number of safe zones. I think there is overreaction because people don’t know what is going on. Remember the beginning of AIDs? People talking about quarantine?
Why believe them about the safe zones? What they are saying is what people want to hear. Everything they say and do is designed to keep control.
Daniel is skeptical. I am skeptical. The fact non-zombies were executed is troubling Why weren’t they incorporated into the fence community? The fact they are taking the ill away is troubling. I am not sure I believe there is a hospital. They are weeding out the population.
They all should have listened to Madison and left in the middle of the night.
adding: If they had all left in the middle of the night, and had been able to remain safe, they could rejoin the fenced community in the future if it is legitimate. They have lost that option now. They have to escape.
The fenced community may or may not be what it seems, but given what we know it probably isn’t safe to remain there. imho. Right now, there is a clear zone to get to safe fortifications with supplies.
Oh yeah ---- the “flashing light” house.
I asked my son about perhaps Travis’s son being a redeemable character, but he doesn’t like him because he’s all “authority is bad” and getting all the bullying on video, like he’s going to be one of those radical journalists. I am sorry that this show is taking the “all military is bad” stance. In rewatching the original series on Netflix, I noted how the Governor executed the injured pilot’s group, and how they seemed to be a good bunch of soldiers, so I don’t get the impression that in the original show, the army is “rogue”. In fact, what’s the downfall of humanity is that instead of the “bad guys” uniting with the good guys to survive, instead, they take advantage of the weak for their own survival. We’ve seen it at Terminus and other places in the original series, and we’re seeing it in Fear with the looters and the drug addict son. Son thinks the series finale will be LA being Napalmed, like Atlanta was in the original series, and perhaps the second season will redeem the series with a similar storyline to the original.
OK, one example of unrealistic behavior: Madison blithely going outside the fence by herself, unarmed, knowing that the undead are out and about. And then not even picking up the gun she sees. And as I recall, she makes no effort to close the fence back up.
I was really kind of hoping that FTWD would try to show the collapse of society in a city with many millions of people, focusing on different segments of the population and government. But I guess the budget is too sparse for that, so all we get is one generic neighborhood much like every TV show ever set in Southern California. They’re not even showing the same kind of chaos and vehicle-choked highways that the original show portrayed in Atlanta.
you are so right! She should have been picking up all the abandoned weapons.
Oh I think this show is a mess. The plotting is absurd: Somehow except for 12 safety zones (was it 12?) the military has managed to clear the entirety of LA, a sprawling city of millions, in 9 days. The electricity goes on and off, with no explanation of how or why, and even when it’s on, there is no communication with any part of the rest of the world. Despite her past experience with the folly of an open door, Madison cuts the fence and leaves it that way with no concern that perhaps it exists for a good reason. A whole scene is devoted to the daughter’s homemade tattoo, though the brief and shallow scenes with her boyfriend gave us no reason to be invested in the relationship. The son has a swim and then puts on his same old junkie clothes even though his whole wardrobe is presumably sitting in his closet. And why is ex-wife so desperately needed at the hospital? Is every other person with medical skills already dead? How? And perhaps the producers have sought the input of mental health professionals, but I don’t believe that 9 days into the end of the world as they know it, people would be capable of doing anything but huddling in a ball of misery, much less jogging and painting walls and bitching about not getting enough help around the house.
It appears AMC hired the Z team to quickly put this thing on the air and grab the goodwill generated by the original show. And while I include the actors in that characterization, I primarily blame the writers. If only one of the family members had been written to exhibit an iota of charm or intriguing backstory, it would go a long way to making us interested in all their fates. But right now I can’t think of one of them who I’d miss if they turned into zombie chow.
Back to the high school in the first episode - is it normal for the principal to have a built-in eavesdropping system?
@mommaj we found that do unbelievable too! Those aren’t even his clothes - he stole those from the old guy who died in the hospital ward.
smacking forehead
Who woulda ever thought you’d need an expert torturer in the zombie apocalypse?