How to convince my mom?

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<p>Seriously, it is one thing to bash another school. But why post bad facts about Trenton, which has nothing to do with this thread. kraordrawoh I think you have too much time on your hands. Invent is right, it isn’t as if other towns in the US don’t have stats like that too.</p>

<p>There are economically disadvantaged towns near many boarding schools. Hello, have you ever been to NYC? There are definitely parts to “avoid.”</p>

<p>Kids from L-ville don’t go hang out in Trenton. </p>

<p>I would suggest that anyone contemplating any school look at the town it is in, where kids go for the weekends and where transportation is located/goes to but not to dwell on nearby irrelevant cities.</p>

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<p>Princeton has fine dining. The Gourmet food in Millerton comes through McDonalds.</p>

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<p>bspreppie - most of the spots to avoid in NYC are easier to get out of than some of the unsavory suburbs. And while neither I nor my children attended Lville or Hkiss, a huge number of their friends have (since they all went to “feeder” schools). I know exactly when the BS kids are back home and even though Hkiss has a greater population of NYC kids, they certainly dont come to NYC to party on random weekends, only on large vacations. Lville kids seem to come in randomly all the time to go to clubs/restaurants that serve/people’s houses. That is why I think a mother who is concerned with safety would choose Hkiss over Lville, unless she doesnt mind her daughter not having a social life.</p>

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<p>What do hotchkiss students do on weekends?</p>

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<p>mhmm – if u r a mom, how do you know where kids in NYC are partying?! MANY kids go to NYC on weekends from Hotchkiss, you have no idea what u r talking about but u say u did not go to either school neither did your kids. So please stop spreading hearsay.</p>

<p>Yes kids go home for breaks and long weekends, but they also go back when their old school has a dance, or just because hanging out at school can get boring and the wealthy NYC kids can come and go easily. Their parents (many of whom have country houses nearby) come up all the time too and take them out to dinner, all the time, some every weekend. </p>

<p>There is no real difference in this between Hkiss and Lville. The biggest difference is more NJ kids at Lville and more CT kids at Hkiss. </p>

<p>I know mothers concerned with safety that wouldn’t choose Hotchkiss over Lville. So again, stop with the hearsay. Vivsters has a serious decision and her mom’s opinion actually matters. If you cannot add value or insight, stop bashing a school. There are lots of kids who would give anything to be in her enviable position of choosing between two great schools (4 if u include choate and peddie). Not everyone is so lucky as to have those kinds of choices.</p>

<p>There are notable differences between the two schools but partying in NYC is not one of them.</p>

<p>The bigger differences I would venture to say are the following (that might matter to a girl from china):</p>

<p>dorms (lville has house system)
setting (very rural versus semi-urban/rural)
class selection (comparable, but kids can take classes at princeton if they exhaust Lville)
college matriculation (lville to princeton connection exists and cannot all be explained by faculty kids)
transportation (slightly more/easier options at Lville)
dress code
sports (both have golf courses, Hkiss has sailing no crew, there are probably other differences)
one strike policy (Hkiss has 1 strike u r out, Lville has 2 strikes)
alumni (both impressive, Hkiss tends to have captains of business/industry)
PGs (both have them)
size (Lville slightly bigger but fewer boarders so feel is not so different as say Hkiss versus Exeter)
Facilities (one of the worst ways to make a decision on a school as a building is a building but both have pluses and minuses, Hkiss has nicer pool, Lville has fantastic exercise/weight room, classrooms are comparable)
for Vivsters the number of students from China may matter – unclear who has more, the Hotchkiss community is small</p>

<p>seriously i wish people would only comment on things they know about, just like when applicants tell other applicants they have a great chance of getting accepted.</p>

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<p>I can tell bsprep is getting really desperate. Come find out how much a deep breath can do for you,in and out,in and out,</p>

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<p>desperate? im already accepted and enrolled. so there hoo too take your sense of humor elsewhere.</p>

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<p>It’s Gregg Maloberti in disguise. ;)</p>

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<p>I would bug the teachers to give more homework as there is nothing else to do in the middle of nowhere. :smiley: :D</p>

<p>It’s funny how many HK people are trying to get OP to go to Hotchkiss. </p>

<p>Vivsters, Use Google Earth to look at lakeville, CT and don’t worry if you see some black bears or something, they are just local to the area. :p</p>

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<p>I feel like the Frenchman atop the castle announcing to King Arthur that his boss already has a grail. Kudos to Monty Python. ;)</p>

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<p>bspreppie, as a parent I really shouldnt get into an argument with you, however since you write things that you clearly know very little about, and this thread was set up by a student who genuinely is interested in getting advice, I will.
You write “if you are a parent how do you know where kids are partying…” 99.9 % of NY parents of kids HS age know exactly where the kids go. Its not rocket science.
You write “NYC kids from Hkiss come back to attend dances their schools put on” Those schools in NYC that do go through 12th grade, do not have dances in HS. Only in middle school. And those only take place on fridays. The “unauthorized” homecoming dances that some HS put on do take place on long weekends when the majority of the BS kids are back home. About 2/3 times a year.
You write " its easy for rich NYC kids just to go home for no reason." But those that are at Hkiss are very bright and concerned with education. They also do a lot of sports on Saturdays. So, no, they dont.
You write " lots of rich families have houses in Lakeville area etc and take their kids to dinner on a weekly basis." True, Lakeville is a great area for second homes, and some Hkiss families do have houses nearby, and some parents come visit (mainly on Wednesdays though) and take kids to dinner. Partially true, some, not lots. And that would not impact the OP’s social life or travel.
**didnt mean it to sound as though Lville kids arent as bright as Hkiss kids and just want to party, just that the proximity to the city makes it exponentially easier to come into the city for a short time.</p>

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<p>What about health? What do the schools do if you get a severe cold, stomach flu, a fever, break your right arm, need to be in a wheel chair, etc.? (I get stomach flu quite a lot, and it’s horrible D: ) Do they make you stay in your dorm? Do they give you medicine or do I bring my own? Would they create a ‘special’ exam so that you can still take it even when you can’t write with your right hand?</p>

<p>I heard from Hotchkiss students that if you’re not feeling well, you need to go to the nurse and get a red card or something… not sure about L’ville, but my mom says they have good medical facilities.</p>

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<p>Vivsters, you really need to stop worrying about all these day to day issues. These are boarding schools, in that they have several HUNDRED kids living there and are used to dealing with things like transportation and health issues. You will be one of many students from overseas in the next 4 years and one of hundreds they have had over the years. They know what to do. But also realize that a great amount of self-care is also expected of you. It will be up to you to seek out those services that you may need when you need them. I don’t think there’s a lot of hand holding at either of these schools so you have to be prepared to advocate for yourself. Think hard about that and make sure you are ready to strike out on your own. Maybe your mother is worried that you’re not ready to take charge like you will need to.</p>

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<p>Viv, your mom already figured it out. L’ville kids don’t party, that’s why they have such terrific college placement that is hard to beat. I’m sure you looked at the college placement of Hotchkiss so you can compare for yourself. L’ville location, campus architecture, weather are hard to beat by most NE schools let alone Hotchkiss. The L’ville students that post here frequently like LLVILLE, LOLZBABE, and Dapple are so nice and friendly. You will have more international students at L’ville which is a big plus. If I may ask, why do you want to go to Hotchkiss when you have a choice to go to L’ville?</p>

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<p>Vivsters - another point - usually when people move off waitlist, they are given a very small window of time to accept. Its an all or nothing situation.</p>

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<p>Be active on Facebook and talk to current students. There must be a handful of Chinese students at either school.</p>

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<p>Viv already said the school needs response by A10. She has time to compare and decide.</p>

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<p>I truly wish all my WLs were actually “admission errors”. (no offense to anyone)</p>

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<p>mhmm – u do not have a kid at Hkiss so u cannot possibly know what kids do there. And most parents come up on saturdays not Wednesdays (except the moms sometimes come wednesdays for games too, but almost everyone with parents near enough go up saturdays). You cannot get reservations at Woodlands or Boathouse because of all the parents taking their kids there. </p>

<p>I never said parents have house in Lakeville, but they have country houses close. Plenty of kids have country houses nearby, and about half of the school lives close enough to go home on weekends, and kids do. You have no clue based on your own kids social lives (NOT at Hkiss or their friends, or your friends’ kids) what most of the school does. Seriously. Stop pretending to know about a school you have no affiliation to and cannot possibly know the social habits.</p>

<p>You don’t think kids at Lville are very bright and concerned with education and have sports on Saturdays too? Why do you feel the need to make positive comments about Hkiss (a school you do not go to nor have kids at) and negative comments about Lville (the same situation)? Did Lville reject your kids or something?</p>

<p>Seriously get a life. This girl (and others) are making decisions and you pretend to know about a school you don’t even have a clue about or send your kids there. It is awful.</p>

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<p>Right on the mark… I would have to say.</p>