Parents of the HS Class of 2025 (Part 2)

Parents weekend - and our only time to see S25 until winter break - is in the books. I knew basically what to expect (not much) so in my mind I was also thinking of this long weekend as a little getaway for me and my husband. And it’s good that my expectations were lowered…

We stayed in Greeneville, which is about 45 minutes away from Clemson, but a cute little downtown with some nice shops and restaurants and parks and some good places for us to just take walks and explore. There were very few activities for parents weekend, but we got to go with S25 to the “experiential learning yard” for his construction management major and we talked with one of his current professors (also in charge of advising for the program) and one of the professors that teaches the classes that train the kids for the competitions plus three current seniors in the program. It was good to see and hear what they had to say. That was really all the time S25 had for us on Friday, but husband and I walked around downtown Clemson, had a super late lunch (at 3:30) and went to a volleyball game that was a lot of fun. Then, showing what responsible adults we are, we decided that as adults no one is the boss of us, and we had ice cream for dinner.

Saturday we had the football game, which was at noon. We’d heard nightmares about traffic getting in to town, so we left our AirBnB in Greenville at like 7:30. Of course, therefore there was NO traffic and we got to campus way before S25 was planning to see us at 10:00. That was ok, we had a nice chat with some tailgaters parked next to us for a while, took our time walking to where we needed to meet the boy (we took a scenic detour so husband could see part of the campus he had never seen).

Once we caught up with S25 he took us to where some of his friends were joining a tailgate. This one was sponsored by a bunch of people from one of the boys’ home church. We talked with his friends a bit, but mostly the kids were playing (just forgot the word - you know, the bean bag toss game) so we hung with the adults until it was time to go to the game.

The game was… something. Clemson played terribly and S25 is a huge football fan so this just put him in a super craptastic mood. Add to that it was incredibly hot even not counting the sun beating down with no shade. We were guzzling water and it didn’t seem to help. There were a ton of people in the first aid station, and some poor lady had to be medevaced - it looked like she fainted from the heat or something, then she tumbled down a few levels of the grandstands, eventually getting stuck head down between some bleachers. I’ve been checking the news to see if I can find anything out, but nothing. I hope she’s ok. Anyway, after roasting under the cloudless sky for two hours some clouds came in and just as I was getting excited about a breeze the game got paused for lightening.

Between the poor play and the sun burns we’d all gotten over the two hours we’d been out, my S25 was in an awful cranky mood. We hiked across campus to an open building (most are locked, even for students, on game day) and got a snack (chick fil a milkshakes for all). The biggest benefit of this was that one of S25s good friends stopped in the same place with his mom so we got to spend some time really getting to chat and I felt like I got to know at least one of his people.

Once the game resumed S25 had no interest in returning, so we walked a little to go buy my husband a tshirt, then walked to our car to go over some paperwork we’d brought down, then we brought S25 back to his dorm and that was it. He was in such a mood from the bad game, and so clearly exhausted from the early start and sunburn/heat combo that we decided to just let him try to rest and relax on his own, so we left. His friends had invited him back to the tailgate after the game - they were going to do burgers - so hopefully he went back for some dinner. But if we had stayed longer it would’ve really been pushing it.

I’m bummed to have had so little time with him over the two days we spent on campus, but it was for the best. He needed to get work done on Friday, and he needed rest and time to recharge on Saturday. It was great to see him. Now I just need to figure out how to not be sad that I won’t see him again until December.

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Sorry for the iffy visit (but go Orange!) :wink:

The very good news is that (despite the football season thus far) he has found friends and seems invested his classes. Sounds to me like he is making a great adjustment to college. Just too bad you won’t see him again until semester break.

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Sorry she isn’t off to the start you all hoped for. A couple of things strike me.

– In terms of her suitemates, schedule is a big thing, especially if she is not around when they do things. Neither one of my kids developed close relationships with their freshman roommates – it may have taken a bit more time for them to find their people, but it turned out just fine.

– it sounds to me that your D should consider if she wants band to play such a major part in her college experience. If yes, that is great and I expect that many of her friends and future roommates will also be band members. That is fine. If she doesn’t want that time commitment for the next 4 years then she should think about if she wants to continue with band.

I hope things sort out quickly for her.

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Had a long talk with our D today.

The issues seem mostly related to her major. As far as a 4 year academic based college goes, she likes her choice overall. There is little to no pressure to drink/party, which given her health issues is a huge deal. Switching colleges would be required only if her current college has no workable majors or if she wants to switch to something more vocational. We discussed potential other majors and how to go about dealing with that.

Band—she believes things would be worse if she did not participate in band. Band gives her friends, creativity, and an outlet. Of course she is disappointed about not having her first choice of instrument but she is also practicing to improve her chances for next year.

Roommates/suitemates— she doesn’t necessarily dislike them, but 2 of the 3 of them are just not super compatible. Even if my D had more time, they wouldn’t be close friends. One of the suitemates told my D that her whole reason for coming to college was to find a husband. This is the same girl whose priority is rushing and admitted to my D that she (the suitemate) is obsessed with her looks. My D was shocked that anyone could still think like this in 2025. I’m in no way a feminist and was a SAHM but to admit that you are there for your Mrs. degree is kind of…what’s the word…icky?

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Sounds like there ARE positives.

–She is happy and comfortable with the idea of band being a huge part of her college life. No doubt she will find friendships (perhaps future roommates) through this activity.

–The current roommates will never be her people. It is fine (and not unusual) to just co-exist peacefully with freshman roommates.

– There is time to sort out her major/career goals. Perhaps she can talk to her advisor or go to the career center for some ideas. It is great that you can discuss and throw ideas out to support her.

Sometimes it takes a while for students to settle in. Take a breath and give it time

Personal anecdote: During first semester midterms my S called and said “Are these really the best 4 years of my life, because this sucks” Fast forward and college was a remarkably wonderful experience for him – he found great friends, a major that worked well, and grew/matured in every way.

It’s hard, but give it some time.

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“I am in no way a feminist” ?

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We told her repeatedly that she is doing the right thing by discussing all of this now, that this is the time to change direction, and we are behind her and will support her in whatever possible way that we can, that she is neither lazy nor stupid for moving on from engineering, that there is more to life than money (as long as she can be self sufficient) and that we can push for her to have her own room next year (the disability helps.)

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I am not a feminist. I believe marriage is beneficial for both men and women, I believe that motherhood is the highest calling, I believe that men and women are inherently different, and I am not overly career driven…but for a 17 year old to say that she is only going to college to meet a husband bothers me to the extreme. I also believe in equal education, equal rights, and equal pay.

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About 20 years ago we were at a Clemson game in mid-November…I had my son dressed in little corduroy OshKosh overalls with a tiger embroidered on the front…it was SO HOT…someone in the stands asked aloud “is it always this hot here?” And the reply came from someone else without missing a beat: “No. Usually it’s hotter.” They don’t call it Death Valley for nothing. Whatever the temp is on your weather app, add 10 degrees or subtract 10 degrees, but it will never be right at what they say it is.

And yeah, this is the worst start for the Tigers since 2004. If your son is PO’d about that, then he’s in good company. Clemson fans tend to not be super forgiving of losses; there are a few schools in the country that expect to win with no excuses, and Clemson whether rightly or wrongly is one of them. Sorry that it wasn’t a better weekend.

I don’t think anything in your statement makes you not a feminist. I think the point is that women should be able to choose for themselves what they want, and not be treated as inferior in any arena.

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Echoing what @SpreadsheetMom said, and adding that precisely none of what you wrote is inconsistent with feminism—it’s inconsistent with a number of mischaracterizations and strawmannings of feminism that have been used to attack it, sure, but not with feminism itself.

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Ok, thanks. Not really wanting to get into a deep discussion about it but I appreciate the info.

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“I’m in no way a feminist and was a SAHM but to admit that you are there for your Mrs. degree is kind of…what’s the word…icky?”

Ha! I am a super-duper feminist and WOHM, but I actually do think that going to college to find a spouse is a pretty smart thing to do, alongside your studies.

I’m so sorry DD is having a rough time of it. I tend to agree that Band sounds like a bright spot.

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DS got into a cappella! They came to serenade him to let him know, and he was in the shower. So luckily they waited until he was dressed. I feel like a lot of my stories here are about near misses with nudity in the coed dorm, ha.

I woke up today to the whole story of it in our family chat, first him feeling like the callback went really poorly, then “getting in the shower and going to sleep,” then “look at this video they came and let me in with a serenade but I was in my PJs”

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Congrats to your kid! So exciting.

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Thank you! I feel like everyone here follows each others’ kids’ journeys and it’s lovely to have this community. I hope there are lots of sweet updates to come from you all.

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Yay! That’s awesome. My D22 has a singing background – more chorale than a cappella – but her smallish school has at least 6 or 8 a cappella groups, and she loves going to all the concerts. :blush:

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Congrats! What a lovely way to welcome him to the group. Guessing this will be one of those standout happy/funny memories of his college years.

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I am going to go on a big tangent here to say that I am barely starting to assimilate the fact that S25 is now in college and just starting to discover who he is and his role in the world… To think that he could meet his future spouse already seems so… fast!

Of course now that I have a child in college I am realizing several people I know met their spouses in college (including my in-laws!), and have come across several other stories just like it. But I must confess, this possibility a is bit scary even though it’s not my decision to make!

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