Tiger Woods

<p>“In general I believe in the last 25 yrs or so it somehow has become more important to take care of ones self first without any regard for others in our American society. People are always rushing to take, to be first in line. They feel entitled. They are no longer polite. They no longer take turns or let others go first.They don’t care if their actions will eventually harm others. They just get out of the way and move on to what they want next. More and more people are behaving this way as they find themselves “left out” if they don’t.”</p>

<p>Maybe you should get out of NY/NJ once in a while. Here in the Detroit area, I can never remember people being nicer. Maybe it’s because we’re all on an economic version of the Titanic.</p>

<p>“Woods visited Earl Woods at a hospice hours before he passed away, but the golfer later returned home, where he had sex with Jungers.”</p>

<p>You apparently see this glass as half-empty. I prefer to praise Tiger for NOT taking Jungers to his father’s deathbed and whispering “Hey Pop, can you move over a little bit, I gotta take care of some business.” (Everybody’s saying he was so cheap, but he didn’t do this, did he?? Did he???)</p>

<p>"some men will continue to think with what is below the waist even when they have a lot to lose. Forever has it been, and forever shall it be. "</p>

<p>Mort Sahl used to say “The big joke on men is sex; the big joke on women is love.” For every guy who nails a foxy waitress, there’s a gal who’s ga-ga over a guy with a drug habit or a prison record. While he was on Death Row, Ted Bundy supposedly got about 200 letters per day from women who claimed they were in love with him. O.J. Simpson never had trouble getting hot women even AFTER his trials. Shall I go on?</p>

<p>“Maybe you should get out of NY/NJ once in a while. Here in the Detroit area, I can never remember people being nicer. Maybe it’s because we’re all on an economic version of the Titanic.”</p>

<p>For a change, I agree with Schmaltz. </p>

<p>I have lived in Detroit, and I found the people the nicest of any place where I ever have lived.</p>

<p>I haven’t seen America in general become a “me, me, me” place. I know all sorts of people including young people who are incredibly kind, compassionate, and generous even though they are far from rich.</p>

<p>I think there always have been me, me, me people in the U.S. and in the world, but they are not the majority. In this age in which all sorts of private info is available about people, I think we hear more about celebrities’ narcissism and selfishness than we could hear about before the time of text messages, etc.</p>

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<p>Isn’t Detroit considered the murder capital of the country?</p>

<p>" Wall Street’s theory of Stockholder Value, which has companies spending money to buy back their shares–the theory being that this would push up the stock price.</p>

<p>So instead of using its cash to build better products, Detroit has spent billions trying to push up share prices. Why do car companies make such decisions? Because if stock prices go up, executives’ stock and options are worth more."
Jerry Flint. Forbes.com</p>

<p>Detroits problems in many ways spurn from greedy “get mine” corporate big wigs trying to make more and more money…they do not care about the family sitting around their dinner table trying to pay the bills.</p>

<p>“Isn’t Detroit considered the murder capital of the country?”</p>

<p>Yes, it usually is the murder capital of the country, and definitely was when I was there. One person I knew was murdered while I lived there, too.</p>

<p>However, on an individual level, Detroiters are very kind and generous. I know this probably is a surprise to people – as it was to me – but I’ve lived in the NE, Midwest, West, and South, and never met other people as friendly and supportive as were those in Detroit.</p>

<p>Most of the murders are related to drugs and alcohol, and people tend to be killed by relatives or acquaintances.</p>

<p>Interesting how others’ lives are being affected by Tiger’s affairs. If what the caddie is saying is true, I feel sorry for him and for his family. I can fully understand why his wife and others might think that the caddie was involved in Tiger’s extramarital affairs.</p>

<p>What I wonder about also is how Tiger’s best friend – who just married the woman who works for Nike – is getting along with his new wife, and whether she has major concerns about the integrity of the man whom she married.</p>

<p>"Tiger Woods’ caddie, Steve Williams, has broken his silence on Woods’ recent problems in an interview with a New Zealand newspaper.</p>

<p>Williams said the Woods scandal had placed pressure on his own wife and family and that Woods had admitted to him he had “a problem.”</p>

<p>“My head is in a spin right now,” Williams told the New Zealand Sunday News.</p>

<p>"The media has made it very difficult for my family. There is no question about it.</p>

<p>“Obviously, I understand Tiger has got a problem.” And, he said, he and Woods “discussed that.”</p>

<p>Williams said he decided to speak after discussions with his family, including wife Kirsty, because journalists chasing the Woods scandal had started asking if he had been involved.</p>

<p>Williams said he had no knowledge of Woods’ infidelity and that anyone who doubted his sincerity didn’t understand Woods’ “indiscretions” happened while Williams was back with family in New Zealand…"
[Tiger</a> Woods’ caddie, Steve Williams, breaks his silence | The Fabulous Forum | Los Angeles Times](<a href=“Archive blogs”>Tiger Woods' caddie, Steve Williams, breaks his silence)</p>

<p>"The Florida Department of Children and Families paid a visited Tiger Woods’ Florida home on Saturday, according to reports.</p>

<p>The agency went to the golfer’s mansion mid-day, accompanied by a marked police car, radaronline.com reports without naming information sources.</p>

<p>Officials, though, wouldn’t confirm or deny the report.</p>

<p>“Child abuse, adult investigations in the state of Florida are confidential,” said Carrie Hoeppner, an agency spokeswoman, told the Daily News. “I’m just not able by law to give confirmation about whether we visited the family and that is in the interest of protecting the child.”</p>

<p>It’s protocol for the state department to investigate domestic violence that occurs in homes.</p>

<p>Tiger has denied reports that he and his wife, Elin, fought over his cheating, leading to a single-car crash that sparked the recent explosion of media attention of the typically tight-lipped golfer’s home life.</p>

<p>The police and agency cars stayed for “roughly an hour,” radaronline.com reported.</p>

<p>Read more: [Child</a> welfare services visits Tiger Woods’ and Elin Nordegren’s home, according to reports](<a href=“http://www.nydailynews.com/gossip/2009/12/13/2009-12-13_child_welfare_services_visits_tiger_woods_and_elin_nordegrens_home_according_to_.html#ixzz0Zb7AOYQI]Child”>http://www.nydailynews.com/gossip/2009/12/13/2009-12-13_child_welfare_services_visits_tiger_woods_and_elin_nordegrens_home_according_to_.html#ixzz0Zb7AOYQI)</p>

<p>I’m not surprised that Tiger had a sexual encounter as his father was dying. I’m not an expert, but it seems obvious that out-of-control sexual behavior, like out-of-control drinking or drug use, is a way to escape painful feelings. The loss of his father had to be extremely painful for Tiger. </p>

<p>“The Chosen One”??? Raising a child this way is, in my view, a form of abuse.</p>

<p>"Nordegren has shunned the media, and her family and friends have supported this, refusing to make comments to the media. Until recently, she and Woods were not the focus of tabloid gossip. Discretion almost to the point of shyness is very Swedish. </p>

<p>Bragging about money and fame is unacceptable. A 1933, Scandinavian novel about a small town established the informal “Jante Law,” a 10-point rule on group behavior: “Don’t think you’re anyone special or better” is the message.</p>

<p>Swedish fashion icon and photographer Bingo Rimer, who knows Nordegren well, is one of very few friends who has talked to the media about her.</p>

<p>“She was very hesitant with Tiger to start with. It took a year until they became an item," Rimer told the Swedish newspaper Aftonbladet. “She is a very good girl, and that was why Tiger was so extremely in love with her. I believe she felt a mental barrier because of his fame. She has never looked for any attention.” She once even turned down a Vanity Fair interview and photo shoot, he said.</p>

<p>“Who would turn down Vanity Fair? Not me," Rimer said. “But Elin did. She is a strong woman with so much integrity. She never married Tiger because of fame.””</p>

<p>[Elin</a> Nordegren | Sweden | Tiger Woods Wife](<a href=“http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/sports/091213/elin-nordegren-tiger-woods-wife-sweden]Elin”>http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/sports/091213/elin-nordegren-tiger-woods-wife-sweden)</p>

<p>Skipping off thread for a moment; I don’t think the surviving family of Vincent Chin believe that Detroit is just full of friendly folks. Characterizing an entire city or state so broadly is guaranteed to miss the mark, for pro or con.</p>

<p>No place is 100% great or evil. All I’m saying is that the trend towards Me Me Me isn’t very noticible here in the Detroit area. People of all races go out of their way to hold doors open for each other, they tend to be polite to others in stores, etc. Like Northstarmom, I have lived all over the U.S., and have lived in several foreign countries. I wouldn’t want to live anwhere but here. There’s a reason celebrities like Kid Rock, Eminem, Jack White, Aretha Franklin, Ted Nugent, and Jeff Daniels live around here even though they could live anywhere in the world…aside from the crack dealers and pimps, people tend to be quite genuine here. Athletes who play for the local sports teams are often wary when they get traded here, but they almost always end up liking it. The current Detroit mayor, Dave Bing, isn’t originally from around here, but he played for the Pistons for a while, finished up his basketball career in another city, but came back to live here.</p>

<p>"Accenture PLC is dropping its six-year sponsorship of Tiger Woods, the company said Sunday, following two weeks of revelations of the star golfer’s alleged extramarital affairs.</p>

<p>“After careful consideration and analysis, the company has determined that he is no longer the right representative for its advertising,” Accenture said in a statement on Sunday.</p>

<p>Since 2003, the consulting firm has tapped Mr. Woods’s image as a symbol of high performance business. “Famous not only for his success on the golf course, Tiger Woods is equally renowned for his work ethic, focus and commitment to continual improvement,” Accenture’s Web site once read.</p>

<p>[Accenture</a> to End Tiger Woods Sponsorship - WSJ.com](<a href=“http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704121504574594320145358630.html?mod=googlenews_wsj]Accenture”>http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704121504574594320145358630.html?mod=googlenews_wsj)</p>

<p>Accenture is the old Arthur Andersen, isn’t it? If so, maybe TW can hire them for rehab-consulting.</p>

<p>They should sign Roger Federer.</p>

<p>I suspect allot of the companies signed these very expensive endorsement deals when things were much better, economical speaking. I’m sure they are thrilled to get out of these contracts and I further suspect the ones that don’t sever ties with Woods will demand a hefty price reduction, and get it.</p>

<p>Well, they ought to be able to get out of those contracts given that he isn’t even playing golf anymore. I mean, I doubt they signed him up to be the spokesperson for how to lose focus on your life because you can’t stop cheating on your wife with women who are sex professionals.</p>

<p>“how to lose focus on your life because you can’t stop cheating on your wife…”</p>

<p>Can’t we please leave Bill Clinton out of this discussion??</p>

<p>I read the linked article about Elin and how she is perceived in Sweden. I know she was quoted as saying that the standard of living disparities here in the U.S. are “hard”. That sort of thing always makes me scratch my head. If your tax rate in Sweden would be so much higher, why does it have to be a government which forces you to give more? Why not just do it yourself if you really believe in it? She could give away most of her money, and keep only what she needs.</p>

<p>I don’t mean to pick on her - she has my complete support. I just love the article’s waxing on about how liberal and wonderful everything is in Sweden.</p>

<p>Sometimes we get focused on the big picture, and miss the small picture. Imagine Tiger trying to think logically about his situation while his urges have no apparent outlet. He probably hasn’t gone 2 weeks without a release since he was first old enough to say the words “cocktail” and “waitress” in the same sentence. And now his wife probably won’t have anything to do with him. All his bimbos are busy cutting a deal with the National Enquirer or troweling make-up onto Gloria Allred’s face. All his golf gloves are for his left hand. It’s times like this when he’ll find out just how loyal his caddie is.</p>

<p>Uhh, Schmaltz…</p>