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<p>I said this all the way back on post #1315.</p>
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<p>Now, MOWC, don’t you feel silly having so little faith that TW would get into trouble of all ages? :)</p>
<p>“This thread has become one big Hen Party!”</p>
<p>Oh boy, this makes me think about the kind of parties Tiger hosted…but I’m NOT gonna go there.</p>
<p>toblin is just jealous
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of 07dad and his harem</p>
<p>It seems by the hour, this story in the media has a new chapter. Hard to know what is factual though. I recall recently the reports were that the couple was going to remain together and work on their marriage. The news reports I’m reading now (can’t tell how solid they are…simply just quoting “sources”) say that they are separated and will announce after the holidays, a permanent break up. </p>
<p>Stay tuned…this may change tomorrow (in the media at least). </p>
<p>I do feel for this family as they are real people and a lot of hurt and pain is involved for the wife and there are kids involved and it is made worse by being sooooo public.</p>
<p>with so much increased suspected infidelity being revealed daily and with him admitting to infidelity, i think E’s gonna leave him and get out of Dodge.</p>
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<p>Actually, addiction is not a mental illness. It is defined by the medical community as a “brain disease”. There can be co-occurring conditions, but addiction itself has more in common with something like Parkinson’s (rather than a psychological disorder).</p>
<p>I wonder what kind of role model his FA was?</p>
<p>From Post #1414: “While I heavily condone Tiger Woods for his actions, I don’t see how it has anything to do with his race.”</p>
<p>Finally, someone other than me thinks what he’s done is kinda cool.</p>
<p>Sounds like those of you who don’t want to “lock him up” still want to put him out of commission, bimbo-wise. Maybe somebody could design a sort of chastity belt for him…maybe in the shape of a golf bag. It could be a scale model of a regular golf bag, with all the features of a regular golf bag, including a pocket for a raincoat, and a pocket for balls.</p>
<p>bookworm-
I read your post and wondered, “why would Tiger need financial aid?” Then I realized FA meant father!!! LOL, I guess for a minute I thought this was a college website ;)</p>
<p>Spidey- post #1426 Addiction is considered to be a bio-psycho-social disease… the psychological elements are acknowledged in the DSMV…It has a biological, genetic component, a psychological component and a social compenent…Some believe it is, in fact, a form of OCD, actually.</p>
<p>I just saw a Facebook group called “I also slept with Tiger Woods”.<br>
As of this morning it has over 138,000 members.
lol</p>
<p>OK this is old ground on this thread, but here’s a quote from a recent MSNBC article:</p>
<p>“New studies, like one at Vanderbilt University, are being conducted to determine if brains of sex addicts are somehow different, and if sex addiction is a true, measurable disorder. Yet despite growing interest in such research, there are still some who do not believe it is a true addiction. The American Psychiatric Association’s diagnostic manual, for example, does not list sex addiction as a disorder”.</p>
<p>So, I don’t think there’s consensus on this issue just yet. Personally, I’m a skeptic but trying to keep an open mind. </p>
<p>As for the 47-49 year old - wow - wouldn’t have guessed it. Nah, wouldn’t go for it if it was me. Now George Clooney…that might be tempting lol.</p>
<p>Toneranger-- I don’t ‘necessarily’ disagree with the idea that a discreet sex addiction (pun intended) cannot exist. My supposition, and I could be wrong and wouldn’t really mind being wrong on this one anyway, is that Tiger has addiction issues. Addiction to sex would be a component of addiction in general. What I’m trying, probably unsuccessfully, to say is that I believe TW is an addict. This can manifest itself in many ways…</p>
<p>Let’s put it this way: 5-10% of the population will become addicted to alcohol. If someone never drinks alcohol, then they will never become addicted to alcohol, but they are still at risk and there are certain qualities, certain commonalities among all of that group who will addict. Tiger has these qualities. FWIW.</p>
<p>I wonder if the family is enjoying the sailing?</p>
<p>Why would Tiger necessarily be a sex addict? Would he also be a golf addict? Maybe he just likes sex as much as he likes golf.
Maybe the immorality of sleeping around vs golfing around lends this to an <em>addiction</em>?</p>
<p>well, my feeling is that there is a lot of alcohol and pain medication involved in this situation…Mostly, though, on the night he was admitted to the hospital, he was admitted as an overdose, OD. Normal people do not OD. This is my thinking on this, but I could be wrong, as I’ve said. It’s not as if I’ve spoken to tiger woods about any of this, personally or evaluated him. And anyway, if I had spoken to Tiger, I wouldn’t tell. Sheesh. I’m married. :)</p>
<p>I have a difficult understanding the addiction thing as well. I am definitely open to reading more about this. A chemical addiction makes sense to me. Addiction to a behavior is harder for me to understand. I can see how it can become compulsive in that you enjoy the thrill of it all. I can see how if he had other chemical addictions it could cloud his judgement. But that does not excuse his putting his family at risk - physically and other wise. I guess what I’m trying to say is that even if he has an addiction it does not evoke any sympathy from me. Maybe I’m just callous…</p>
<p>The idea that people ought to feel sorry for addicts is completely misguided. In fact, best practices actually indicate that an addict MUST take responsibility for thier behavior and, in fact, the best therapy for addicts tends to be way more confrontational than any other kind of therapy would ever be.</p>
<p>Nobody ought to feel sorry for an addict. It will never help them to recover. They are fully responsible for the repercussions of thier actions and should be held to that. If they are not held to that, they will never do the hard work necessary to get well and to become the kind of remarkable people they can be in recovery.</p>
<p>That said, this is all armchair diagnoses and irrelevent. :)</p>
<p>Thanks, poetgirl. I have equated addiction with viable excuse and you have cleared that up for me.</p>
<p>Look at it this way: if someone is a junkie and goes to court, they will not maintain custody of thier children. Addiction is not an excuse for bad behavior, but an explanation. However, every addict has the responsibility to stop and in this day and age many resources to help them stop. The main thing which stands in the way of an addict and recovery is the idea that they can’t “help” it. They can and they should.</p>
<p>poetgrl - the allegations of OD are unsubstantiated. Even if he downed a bottle of vicodin - that doesn’t mean he was addicted.
I would find it difficult to believe he had drug and/or alcohol addiction problems given his high level of play on the course. He hasn’t exactly been playing like John Daly.</p>
<p>He was - after all - just voted the Top Athlete of the Decade by the AP.</p>